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Where do you find your best job leads? (choose one or more)

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Unemployment Line

The economy is still in the dumps for many, especially for job seekers and I have a short poll that is shown below that I am using to collect some basic data regarding job leads.

I will be coming out with a much more  exhaustive poll in early April so stay tuned if you want to participate.

If you would like to have a copy of the results of this simple poll just send a comment with an email address that I can use to contact you.

I appreciate your input!

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March 10, 2010 at 7:13 pm

Online application systems-The feedback keeps coming!

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Frustration

I keep thinking that someone will have something good to say about online application systems, but there are not many who feel good about them.

They are a necessary component of every employer’s talent acquisition program, but they seem to be a weak link in many.

This issue is not a huge one right now, but when the economy heats up and hiring starts picking up, which company wants to be known as one with a “user unfriendly” application system?  Not mine…

Here are a few more clips for your reading pleasure-these come from the Linked HR group on LinkedIn:

As an applicant, I’ve found most are simple enough. Those that parse the resume are better and they require simple edits. There are a few that don’t offer a review of the information and errors cannot be prevented. But most have been very useful.


I find on line applications like a big bridge that separates an applicant from the actual employer. I rather a more personal contact with an employer such as an e-mail address to send your application.


Well, the functionality of some sites are bad…they do not allow the applicant to complete the application…nerve racking..


As a current job seeker I find the whole on-line application rather disappointing. Many of the positions advertised are no longer available which is rather a dishonest approach because it does not put any closer to the employers and you are at the mercy of the recruiter. I agree with Carmen and Jesus, very nerve racking…


Its seriously frustrating. Specially the resume importer that imports your personal information. It totally messes up the application instead of helping out. Numerous drop down menus, filling up dates into proper formats at this time of recession for a recent graduate is not easy.


See my interesting example: I applied online to a job. The application was quite easy to fill in, I was able to attach my CV easily as well. Two days later I received an automated refusal saying that I am no qualified for the position and they would continue with other applicants. Well, fine, it happens…. But previously, at the same time of my online application I sent my CV directly to the company via e-mail. On the same day when I got the refusal from the online tool, I was also invited for an interview by the contact person to whom my e-mail was sent and it turned out by the end of the interviews, that I was the best candidate and I was offered the job. Nobody could ever tell me why I got the refusal from the system…..


Good question, Ryan! And all these predictable responses are all valid, because the candidates are the customers, and the customers are always right!

The first answer is that many employers themselves are frustrated with their online application systems because without proper search engine optimisation, too few good candidates get to see the system in the first place. And when they do get to the careers page, if it’s a hassle, the best, most-in-demand candidates will give up and go to the competitor with the more pleasurable experience.

The second answer is that recruitment agents like yourself are frustrated with the agency portals because they don’t have enough or the up-to-date information on them, and the management reporting is lousy. And not supporting third parties hinders recruitment of quality candidates.

The third answer is that damaging the candidate experience damages the employer brand, and that soon damages the product brand, and with that, profits. We researched the Loblaw group of retailers in Canada and discovered that 100% of Canadians were customers of and 8% had applied to work at one part of the group or another. They now know that frustration with online application systems means frustration at not getting bonuses!


1) I have tried to apply via malfunctioning ATS systems. Employers, check your systems. It’s amazing how many of them simply do not work, but applicants have no other means to use.

2) One had an 800 number available for help. I called. Customer Service said it could not help me. I believed them. Why post a CS number? This company is a retailer based in Northern CA.

3) Some are programmed to request a definitive salary figure, and others a social security number. Imprudent.

4) Some are not protected from potential hackers whatsoever. Take your chances. What else is unprotected at that company?

5) Most accept cover letters; some do not. Too bad you don’t know ahead of time.

6) Recently, one allowed me to delete and replace my resume. Too bad it deleted most of my keyed data as well. Most, but not all, data was deleted.

It’s interesting to hear HR folks regret installing these systems which they, too, must use as applicants. Overall, HR should be involved with which questions are asked. Then recruiters should use their own systems periodically. Personally, I have never helped install one for my employers.

Taleo is pretty good. Interestingly, last week I used a system I had never seen before. It did not even have a name. A large international company uses this. I agree, the ATS is geared for employers, not applicants. And many companies appear to have non-HR folks specify questions. Or the questions come prewritten with the system.

The drop-down menus can be time-consuming. Identify your college, for example, among the hundreds we list. Typing the name would actually be quicker for me, but that wasn’t allowed. Ah, time is limited even for those not employed.

I do judge a company by the application experience. In today’s marketplace, it is unfortunate how applicants are treated. Julia Vegh had a unique experience; I had not heard that one before.

Requesting only ASCII resumes drives me nuts. The same goes for automatically converting them. Employers rely on so much technology that the *human* in human resources is lost. It’s a shame.

Luckily, I have not lost sight of why I chose HR as my profession. My next employer will benefit from this insight as past employers have. Now I understand why applicants sent me so many thank you notes when I recruited. I also received resumes simply by word-of-mouth which reduced our expenses. I thank all those who recognized my efforts.

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March 8, 2010 at 8:42 pm

Online Application Systems-People are fed up!

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My post from earlier this week really struck a nerve with many people and I am going to share some of the comments with you today.  I had a hunch that many were frustrated with the many different platforms they deal with, but I had really not grasped the utter anger and angst that many are feeling.

I think there is a business opportunity here.  Anyone who can build a user-friendly applicant system has the world at their fingertips.

$$$$$$

Here are the comments:

  • don’t even get me started… it became an “Occupation” just to spend 5 hours filling out some of these systems! I…. am “educated” and knew the easy short cuts and know HOW to type…. if I can’t do it…. many are going to be frustrated…

    ONLY ONE site had a “down load your resume` option” ….


  • I have been on both sides (as a recruiter and a candidate). If the site is done professionally, it is user friendly for everyone. My frustration is not in the use of the sites, but in the sheer volume it generates. There is no way this is an effective way to either find a job, or identify the best candidate. As much as I love technology, I’m almost in favor of eliminating this option!
  • Dan, my “favorite” system was the one that took at least two hours to complete, but timed out in 90 minutes. The applicant was forced to repeat the process in speed-time in order to be considered! The only thing worse than the online applicant systems is the BLACK HOLE we applicants feel we fall into as soon as the proverbial “submit” button is clicked. The whole process is off-putting as there is no way to check on an application, gauge progress made, and no way to talk to a human being. These applicant systems need to be interfaced with an applicant CRM system so the recruiters can track, report and evaluate the effectiveness of what they have set up. I have worked both sides of the fence — been an applicant, and been the hiring manager — and the systems do not work effectively for either objective. I begin to wonder if I really want to work for the company I am trying to apply to, given the perception their application process creates.
  • I could write pages on how I feel about the online application systems. Very few are user friendly or have you repeating the same information over and over. Streamline it! Ask me for my name and phone number and let me import my resume. Don’t even get me started on how much I hate the entire online system. I long for the days when you had personal contact and could make a first impression.
  • Besides the fact that it takes a long time to use many of the online application forms, some ask for too much information. I may be a bit cautious but I do not want to share my reference information until the interview. Also, there are some systems that require a social security number, which I refuse to give out. however, as an applicant I end up not being able to apply for some jobs because of this requirement. In one case, after I spent about a half hour filling out the information, I was told to give my social security number so the company could determine tax credits for me if I was hired. This is too much information for a company to need before they have even looked at my resume.   One feature I have seen recently that I do like is the systems that have been designed to ask specific questions about the position. I have determined by those questions that I don’t have the qualifications that they are really looking for in the position.

Now you start to see the flavor of this.  It is really UGLY!

I would like to hear some employer feedback.  Come on, defend yourselves and let us know how you can improve this.

More will follow on this hot topic!

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March 6, 2010 at 8:13 am

Are you frustrated with online application systems?

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This may seem like a strange post, but I am venting for a group that I am not currently part of.  The group I represent (at no charge) are those who must continually use online application systems to apply for jobs.

Don’t get me wrong, this is not about only applying on line and not networking.  I am the world’s largest advocate for networking and that will not change.  The issue is this, at the end of every process the applicant usually has to submit their intent through an online process that is somewhere between a swift kick in the rear and some other more descriptive terms that I will omit.  Let’s put it this way; most online applicant systems are solely designed with the receiver in mind and rarely with the user, those providing the input, in mind.

How do I know this?  I know in many ways.  I work as a volunteer with a large career transition group in the Nashville area on a regular basis and I hear the talk from those I help each week.  Every one of them can tell you who has the best and the WORST online applicant system.  I realize that those dealing with the applicants have to have a system to deal with the large submission volume, but I have one question for those who are on the receiving end of the applications tha come online:  Have you personally ever gone to your system and submitted the application and related documents like your applicants do?  I would venture to guess that less than one-third of you have.  If you had done so, you would have never put your systems into place.

Two to three years ago every employer I know would have done just about anything to make their application process easier and smoother.  Those days have come and gone and many firms have paid less attention to how job seekers interface with them.  This too will change.

I would be very interested to hear push back from some of you about this.  Do you agree with my assertion that most online applicant systems stink?  If you know of a good one, tell us who has it.

Job seekers have enough stress in their lives.  Let’s not throw one more hurdle in front of them.

DOE’s First Entrepreneur In Residence Program: FAIL

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DOE’s First Entrepreneur In Residence Program: FAIL.

Interesting post that exposes the DOE’s first entrepreneur in residence program as being much less successful than expected.

The article goes into the details, but I suspect this is not the only federally-funded program that has produced less than stellar results.  This does not mean that we ought to “throw the baby out with the bathwater”, but it does mean that entpreneurship programs need to have business-focused individuals involved and not just scientists and administrative technocrats.

My work at The Human Capital Group-Retained Executive Search and Leadership Consulting

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This post has an attachment that will give you a better picture of the work I do with The Human Capital Group.  Here is a short synopsis of that work:

I provide Retained Executive Search and Leadership Consulting.  My clients reside in many parts of the United States and I have also done work with clients in the Middle East, specifically in Kuwait.

Our search work focuses on three key differentiators:

Speed-We provide finalists in each search in 20 business days-Guaranteed!

Quality-Any candidate you hire is guaranteed for one years

Value-We provide these fully retained services at a value price of 25% of the first year’s total compensation

Our leadership consulting is based on the following qualities:

Integrity based-Defining and doing what is right

Results driven-Metrics to measure and sustain success

Satisfaction guaranteed-Percentage of fees at risk


Let us know how we can be of assistance to you and your firm!

HCG Overview -Winter 2010

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March 1, 2010 at 4:04 am

Internet job search pioneer starts over | tennessean.com | The Tennessean

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Internet job search pioneer starts over | tennessean.com | The Tennessean.

I find this to be interesting because it is not a significant improvement in the method of the traditional job boards, including the one that Bill Warren started.

The crux of this new system will be to have a system where firms will have their own unique URL with the .jobs suffix tied to their job site.  For example, Dollar General would be dollargeneral.jobs.

That makes some sense, but the model falls apart for me when you see the cost of entry.  Large employers will pay $15,000 for all of the “bells and whistles” while small employers will be allowed to line up at the back door for a about $125 per year.  The site also give mention to the fact that small employers can “work through their state employment agencies, which post jobs online at no charge.”  Big Deal!  Why do they need this system anyway?

Job boards are passe’.  Smart jobseekers are using social media to find their best roles and they are engaging in conversations with employers to do so.

Monster, Careerbuilder, Hot Jobs and other like minded job boards are the “Betamax” of the employment market.  Some people will continue to go there, but the best and brightest will use the power of social networks, especially LinkedIn, to find the best jobs.

Social Media Today | The 10 Social Media Metrics Your Company Should Monitor

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Social Media Today | The 10 Social Media Metrics Your Company Should Monitor.

I won’t go through this entire list, but I do agree with most of it.

I find the following to be of the most value:

Engagement duration-WordPress does a good job of measursing this

Network size-a real standard

Brand mentions-that kind of goes with out saying

I find the other measures to be interesting, but I think these three are the real staples of measuring Social Media activity.

What do you think?

Educating and supporting entrepreneurs-I2V in Tennessee

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I had the honor to be part of the program at the I2V seminar in Memphis, TN last Friday, hosted by the UT Health Science Center.  Richard Magid of the UT Research Foundation helped to organize the event.  An agenda for the day is found at this link.

The day was a full one, having both practitioners who have brought their firms out of the ground as well as trusted advisers and partners for the entrepreneurial world.  The event was sponsored and supported by NCIIA, the National Inventors and Innovators Alliance, an organization which encourages and sponsors entrepreneurs in the higher ed environment.

I had the pleasure to team on a presentation with Tom Davis of aRgentis Pharmaceuticals,  a Memphis based firm.  We talked about the many things to consider when building a work team in the startup space.

I will be part of another Tennessee-based entrepreneurial program located on the Knoxville campus in March.  The Vol Court is a multi-week program that is helping students and faculty at the UT Knoxville campus learn more about how they could go about starting their own ventures.  I will be presenting to the group on March 23 about the importance of networking, both personally and professionally.

The State of Tennessee has also gotten involved in the entrepreneurial world in a big way with the TNInvestco program. This program has distributed $80 million to 6 chosen venture firms to make investments in start-up firms throughout the state.  The program, a long-term initiative, is solely in place to help build new high-value jobs for the state.

The Nashville Chamber has also helped start the Nashville Entrepreneur Center.   It has motives similar to those listed above, but is more regionally focused on the Middle Tennessee market.

The entrepreneurial bug seems to be taking flight in Tennessee.  Let’s hope the bite provides for a long-term virus of entrepreneurism in our state and region.

Small Business creates job-not Government.

Siemens STEM – STEM Academy Webinar! Top Ten STEM Resources!

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Siemens STEM – STEM Academy Webinar! Top Ten STEM Resources!.

You still have time to sign up for this.

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February 17, 2010 at 8:23 pm